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Takeaways from Tiffany Jackson

December 02, 2021 JASON HARDIN Season 1
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Takeaways from Tiffany Jackson
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In this episode, Hardin interviews singer & recording artist, Tiffany Jackson

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Jason Hardin  0:02  
Thank you. And hello, I am Jason Hardin. And welcome back to another wonderful episode of Life of a boss, the Podcast, the podcast all about personal development. And today in the studio is very special to have Suzu Sinay with us.

Suzu Sinay  0:18  
Oh, hello, I'm doing great. Oh, did you ask me how I was doing?

Jason Hardin  0:20  
Well, I always want to know how you're doing.

Suzu Sinay  0:23  
How are you doing? Jason,

Jason Hardin  0:24  
I am okay. I can not complain. And I feel even better because you're in the studio. And because we have an excellent show. And what we're doing today is unpacking the interview that we did with Tiffany Jackson, and picking out our highlights and actually digging deep into the values that she gave and the gems that she dropped. So that's what we're gonna do today. And first, I want to hear from you. What is the first thing that stood out in your mind from Tiffany's interview?

Suzu Sinay  0:58  
Well, I'm gonna go ahead and quote Tiffany. And one of the first things that she said that really stood out, she said she wanted to do what she wanted to do, and not what everyone else suggests for me to do.

Jason Hardin  1:13  
I'll remember that. Yeah. Go ahead. What does that mean to you?

Suzu Sinay  1:16  
So it's, you know, staying true to herself, you know, and realizing what her own values standards are, rather than compromising exactly her own values or else's view of who she should be.

Jason Hardin  1:30  
Because what I got from the interview, when she started her career in music, she was groomed by her collective and by her former, I guess, management team and whatnot, whatnot. But she was groomed to be a certain type of way, and a certain type of borders. And after which, she had to deprogram herself. Because just like you said, she wanted to be true to herself and didn't want to be groomed for the world. Yeah. And wanted to be groomed as an artist that she appreciated. And I think that's so important, because I think in a lot of what we do, we sometimes lose that authenticity. Yes, we sometimes try to please others, as opposed to pleasing ourselves. And when we really want life, yeah, so that was very important.

Suzu Sinay  2:14  
Yes. All right, we're moving on to the second quotable quote, It is quick Success builds ego. But slow success actually builds longevity.

Jason Hardin  2:25  
I love that, because that's the takeaway. I got myself. Yeah. What did you get from that?

Suzu Sinay  2:31  
Um, so it's not earning it? Ah, it can lead, I can see how it would build the ego to think, Oh, I'm entitled to this. This is in my blood, like, you know, and also, then it may, if you if that's built on ego, yeah. Then when you don't say, again, repeat that process? Yeah. Now you don't have that longevity. You don't have that confidence. or that esteem,

Jason Hardin  2:55  
exactly No, you're totally right. Because when she said slow, Success builds longevity. I totally resonated with that. Because it's, you can't take that away. Yeah, like a past success. Somebody can give you that somebody could put you on, somebody can put you on that stage and putting a spotlight, but just like they put you on, they can take it from you. Yeah, you know, but when you have that slow success, you built that reputation, you build those skills, you build your own connections, and network and all that. So what you build yourself is kind of hard to be taken away from Yeah, you know, that's what I love that she found that because a lot of artists don't find it. Yes, once again, we get into people pleasing. You know, you only get paid if somebody likes you. So it's very easy to just try to be likable, instead of being who you are.

Suzu Sinay  3:48  
Yeah. And you and you don't you build, like all of your happiness on that quick success. Don't get it again, you know, may not be very happy. There's a reason they say one hit wonders.

Jason Hardin  4:01  
Exactly, exactly. And not to not to have anything against those people who who had that one hit wonder, because a lot of them find that the game isn't for them. You know, they take their money, they leave and they flip it like vanilla ice, you know, like the boys and then they took their money, and they built something else from it. So, but going back to what you said, it's all about authenticity, you know, and truly, you are yourself. You're more willing to take those lumps and those bruises in your time to get there. Do not believe compelled for that quick fix. Of that quick solution. Yeah. And I love that she found that in itself. I love it, too. Oh, what's your next quote?

Suzu Sinay  4:44  
Next quote? I started to feel like I was grooming Oh, this is kind of close to what you said. I started to feel like I was grooming myself for the world instead of myself. Back

Jason Hardin  4:55  
to authenticity, man. Yeah, to be successful. Yes. To be true to yourself, you know, you can gain success by being fake and, and like you say, people pleasing, but you won't really be happy or satisfied. Or you look back at your career, and you'll have so many regrets because it wasn't what you wanted. And it's what somebody else more than real freedom, exactly in freedom is important when creating your own definition of success. That's what my definition is, is freedom. So I wouldn't sign a million dollar contract to be locked in a box doing what somebody tells me to. It just doesn't work for me. And I'm glad it didn't work for her because she is more successful now than she has ever been. Yeah. What else? Yeah. All right. Last

Suzu Sinay  5:42  
quote. The last thing I want is for people to know my name for something that has nothing to do with who I am. Wow, that was probably my favorite. I love that one.

Jason Hardin  5:54  
I like that too. Because it goes back to authenticity. And I think her whole interview was about being herself. Yeah, yeah. Because it yourself. Exactly. Because it seemed like her whole career in the early phases of it was somebody trying to mold her.

Suzu Sinay  6:10  
And she actually in that type of industry, it's

Jason Hardin  6:13  
so common. Oh, man, especially portable. Yeah, it's so common, especially when you get into studios and those environments with these guys. They want more than just your talent, you know, so if you're a recording artist out there be safe. Yeah, if you're female, especially be safe, because this industry is a beast. Yeah.

Suzu Sinay  6:33  
And you don't realize I think that you're I mean, whether or not you want to be your role model. Yeah. other young women.

Jason Hardin  6:40  
Yeah. You are you like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B, they might suck as role models, but their role model nonetheless. Yeah, you got little girls, one to be them. So you have to be mindful of that. Yeah. And I'm not saying you have to subject yourself to be the role model. But you always have to conduct yourself as there's somebody

Suzu Sinay  6:59  
watching. Yeah, yeah, you do have a responsibility. Exactly. And one thing

Jason Hardin  7:03  
about Tasha Tasha found more of herself, by going back to church, she connected to her spirituality. Yeah. And that helped her become the artist she is because she was able to find who she was, or at least re-find who she was, because she was losing that. And I think that's so important. Yes, it is, what about you?

Suzu Sinay  7:24  
I think it is very important, we want to be able to, especially at any, any art form that you're doing, you want to be able to be happy with what you she said, another quote, was focusing on output rather than outcome. And I love that because you have to be happy with how you're expressing yourself. Because really, if you're happy with it, then whether anybody else is it's not as important. So

Jason Hardin  7:49  
you're right. Yeah, you're right. And I think that, like, it's a fine line, you have to walk when you're trying to make money with the product. Yeah, you do want somebody to like it. But I always like for me myself, I have to be the first person that likes what I do. And I know that if I truly like it, there's somebody else that represents me, it represents my taste my likes, and somebody else is gonna truly love it for what it's meant to be, you know, so I think that's what touched upon her music. She wanted to create music for her, and for people like her. And it took a minute to refine that after she was being groomed. But one thing that I did learn from her is that she learned from those mistakes she learned from her time with the collective see, because after that was over, she became her own label. And that was one question I asked is how do you navigate the music business? Now that has changed so much. And for those that don't know, it hasn't changed in a worse way, by by far, it's actually better. It's harder to rise above the noise, but it's easier to get on because we have the whole world at our fingertips through YouTube through Spotify through SoundCloud, like they didn't have this 20 years. And that's how we're able to do this podcast Exactly. Like we didn't have the technology. We'd have to be in a studio somewhere do Yeah, we have to be real in a broadcast studio doing this. But now we can do it from the comfort of own homes and offices. And I think that that's what she utilized. Technology and home network and family members and friends to find these opportunities. Just like getting on I can see your voice.

Suzu Sinay  9:31  
Mm hmm. Yeah. You have to be your best promoter. Right? You and you have to be a biggest fan. Yeah.

Jason Hardin  9:37  
But anyway, that's our show. You know, we want to make a quick, we wanted to really unpack. What was she had to say? And basically it was all about authenticity, being true to yourself, staying true to your craft, and honing in on what makes you better for you, and not will make you better for the world. Any last thoughts? My luck?

Suzu Sinay  9:56  
I agree. 100% and I love you, baby.

Jason Hardin  9:59  
Oh, she said Wonderful and so agreeable. But don't let that fool you. She has her own mind. She knows how to put people in their place. And I love that. But anyway, man, we loved Tiffany. And we love what she brought to the show because she showed that it can still happen. People who want to get into that music industry, people still doing music. The game has changed, but success is still there. All the success and everything you ever wanted is still there. It just looks different. It's not packaged the same. But you have to be willing to wear more hats. You have to be willing to understand that music business is more business than music. So in all you do keep that in mind. All right. All right. All right. Anyway, keep checking this out man. Listen to the life of boss the podcast coming out every Monday and every Thursday of every week. Check out the website lifeofaboss.net and get our downloads and man just do what you can to get better. Because that's all we try to do is help you become the best you that we can. Alright, anyway, I love y'all. And remember the success is a lifestyle peace, peace.