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Jason Hardin 0:02
Well, thank you so much. And I am happy to be here today for another wonderful episode of Life of a boss calm. I mean, life of boss the podcast, I'm sorry. And if you do visit is not live boss.com It's labeled boss.net. So, anyway, I'm excited. So if you don't if you guys don't know yet, you guys can see that I'm excited to be here. And that because we have a wonderful show planned for you today, because we have a great brother. This brother is the owner of two leashes cleaning company and the CEO and founder of grand of the grand rising Institute is a nonprofit, and he's gonna show you talk a bit about that later on. And he's also a certified Sud counselor. A suicide intervention is in a gang prevention it. In addition to all the work he does, this brother is on the Dean's list for the last few semesters at the Rio Hondo College. And without further ado, man, I want to give it up to this brother because I've shared the stage with him. So I know he's the real deal. I know that everything he says is powerful. All his messages all powerful. And this is Mr. Bhuvan Munoz. How you doing, sir? Man?
Ruben Munoz 1:14
I feeling blessed to be here man with that introduction, bro. Man, we blessed to have you. We are fortunate to have you now you got me feeling great up here. And you know what I'm honored to be here.
Jason Hardin 1:23
Thank you. Thank you wonderful to have you. Because as everybody already knows, we connect with bosses. And as people who create and live their own definition of success, and I see that straight up and all you do I feel that I feel that Yeah. Wonderful. Okay, now, though movement is a wealth of information and experience in all the work he does and entrepreneurship and business. I think we will get the most value out of his time by talking about a subject that's very, very near and dear to me. And I talk about all the time because it's so important. And that resilience. That's resilience. Now, before we get into it, I'm gonna ask Gubin man, what is your definition of resilience?
Unknown Speaker 2:04
Can you stop won't stop, never give up. When the blood drip, get up, should get hard, get harder. You know, if you run into a brick wall, find a way to run through it. If you crack your skull, man, you can still roll Get your ass up and finish. I like
Jason Hardin 2:18
I thought he's gonna bust the flow, man. You got into a verse that says that's a passionate subject. I'm glad I'm glad. And my definition is uh, you know, basically, resilience is getting back to normal in after being stricken with illness or any kind of hardship, being back to yourself. And overcoming obstacles, trauma, all those things and challenges. And that's really what I'm about. That's what this show is about. That's definitely what Uber is about. Evolving, man. Speaking of challenges, what was some of the main or biggest challenges you faced? To get here? Where you are today?
Unknown Speaker 3:03
Yeah, well, in general, like life life. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, in life, those who know me, they know where I'm from. They know what were like some of my challenges my sociological development. It always wasn't pretty, you know, I was raised by a single mother, she loved me, she did everything for me. But I grew up, you know, wanting to be one of the guys, I wanted to be one of the good fellas, I wanted to be tough. And that led me down a certain road. And when you make certain decisions, there's always a consequence. I believe that we're free of choices, but not necessarily free of the consequences that we face behind our actions. Poverty, definitely stricken, you know, poverty stricken. You know, like I said, I grew up with a single mom, but I grew up right here in Pasadena. And it's a it's a city is very interesting in the sense that you got millionaires that blocks down the street, and then you got people like myself who grew up on welfare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but even up today, like, the more intense like, day to day, like the demons, the spiritual battle was inside of my head. Absolutely. Because as a result of living that poverty stricken life, and as a result of, you know, coming with like, I'm up against the odds are stacked against me before I even got incarcerated. But now being incarcerated, speeding up a bit, you know, getting older, being incarcerated, coming from a certain background, certain neighborhood. It's really, it becomes like a like the word resilience. You got to be resilient because in my mind, am I broken? I do this. Yeah. All my life. I've been told I'm not smart enough. I'm not good enough. Right. So some of the greatest challenges that had to come was facing myself looking in the mirror and saying, bro, you're worth it. You're going to do this and not only are you going to do this, you're going to leave your footprint. Well,
Jason Hardin 4:42
I love that I want to do it because you said something that was very close to home. Your upbringing. You didn't have the perfect upbringing. Like you said, you grew up in poverty and for those that don't know Pasadena DeVos tournament, a mansion is on Owens grove. Right, there's a place called the snake pit. That's also on Orange Grove about a couple blocks away. And that's the diversity that we've been talking about. That is the disparity. And not just our country, right? All around the world and not just Pasadena.
Unknown Speaker 5:15
Right. And right off of Orange Grove. I've lived off Lincoln in orange row in Section Eight apartments. Ooh. Which is like less. I mean, like a mile and a half out from where you're speaking. Exactly. I mentioned. So it's shacks almost grown man. No, right above store the shacks up there. So absolutely. I'm glad you were able to point that man.
Jason Hardin 5:34
I love Reuben, because he grew up in the same place I grew up, you know, I didn't grow up here all my life. So there's a lot of early childhood asthma in the Bay Area. But from high school on, I've seen the 90s in Pasadena. And sadly enough, it's looking like the 90s. Right now, you know, you got kids getting hit by stray bullets, you got innocent folks dying, what are called mistaken identities and the gang violence. So there's a lot of issues we're dealing with, it's bringing me back to where was in 95, when a Boys in the Hood, and it mentioned society came out, we're living in those times again. And part of that is because of what you said, when you're young, or when I was young, growing up in poverty and a drug infested household. Right. I had a misconception of what reality was, and what kind of reality I can make for me. And it didn't come till years later, when I was able to look myself in the mirror and say, You're better than this. You worse. Yeah, but I didn't know that. So my question to you is, what was that one thing that really told you, it showed you that you can make a life outside of what you're seeing every day, because we're a product of conditioning. And if we see a certain environment every single day, we really can't see past it. So what made you see past the gang life, the incarceration, the poverty to grant rising Institute, to the printing company, and all that that's one today,
Unknown Speaker 7:09
in reality, and this is. So I think some people may have had like a light switch to just turn this on. And then they had this epiphany. And they have a paradigm shift. And now they're just rocking and rolling. It wasn't like that. For me, man. I felt every pain I had every tear a shadow on my face is a direct reflection of where I've came from. And what I mean by that, and I'm not pontificating. I'm getting to your question. And what I mean by that is that the change didn't come overnight, man, it was layers, and layers of momentum of more like a boosting of the self esteem. Yeah, my self worth, right. And taking that pride back and saying, Hey, you're a warrior, man. You're a child of God.
Jason Hardin 7:48
So what cut that oh, what made you just all of a sudden decide?
Unknown Speaker 7:52
It was it was layers is still happening today? I'm barely getting started, bro. So where did it start? It started. I mean, I think literally little chips have layers started all my life. But I think they when I became an adult, I had to go to the county jail for a bit, right. And when I was in the county jail, I was doing the county lid. And while I was in there, I realized that not that I'm better than anyone, but I didn't realize that there was something in me there was a little bit different. Because when I was reading books, people were playing Pete knuckle. When I was writing, and I was exercising my analytics, like my brain, cerebral. Yeah. Other people were more focused on doing push ups. Yeah, yeah. And not that I didn't work out. I was building the body. Yeah, but I see something greater. I was like, man, what is what is really like out there for me what is in the universe that is calling me, Wow, that's whatever it is, I need to get to it. And I need to get to it. And if whatever it's gonna take for me to get there. I need to do that now. And if that means cutting off ties, yeah, cutting burning bridges, and disassociating with people that were never posed to be in my future life. Yeah. And I'm gonna do that. Now.
Jason Hardin 8:57
My question now, if. So, at some point, there was a fresh start, right? Like you said, you were incarcerated. And you saw yourself as not what everybody else would say, you know, you saw those other values. And those are obviously values and talents and skills that you had, like you said, there was interest that was always in you, right. And I think a lot of issues stem from people not really being authentic and true to themselves. Sure. See, like you said, you was reading and doing all that and but sometimes when you grow up in a certain neighborhood around certain folks, we need the coolest shit you can do no. Talking like you're talking with us big words that you can do some environments. So some people dumb themselves down to live the life they used to live
Unknown Speaker 9:42
you. Absolutely, absolutely. I see people man, I was getting out of shit. And I see people jumping and going in order to me, but I was like, wow, what did you put it on? What am I missing here? It was it was it was like I couldn't even I couldn't even fathom myself being at that age and acting like a child again. You know? And the crazy thing about it is that you know what it is like, like you're saying, like, you know, like, what is that thing? What is that thing? Yeah. And that thing is that I just looked at myself in the mirror was like Roman, you, you are way better than this row. You not only going to do this for you, but you have to do this for your family man. And for my people that are coming up after me. It just I just took a like an altruistic approach, like a selfless approach, not just about me, man. And that's why I think a lot of change started happening. We came first with valuing myself looking at my moral compass and and saying, Well, how am I going to pay this forward?
Jason Hardin 10:32
I love that he said something that's very important. And that's values. So you basically tapped into the values that you had since you were little but wasn't able to act on? I am. I'm alive on my wall.
Unknown Speaker 10:45
Well, you know, I think as we go, we learn we grow, right? Yeah, we grow. And then so like, even like we're picking up books and reading. I love reading. I'm actually like a nerd. I never knew that I was a nerd. But I found that out about myself. Like if you go to my house, I got a library. I love to read. That's awesome. And I live when I drive I listen to audiobooks. Yeah, like what you said about my authentic self. Yeah, and that shit is real man. Yeah, cuz Guess what? I always was living up to a fake ass facade, or I'm ever really be Rubin. Yeah, because I had to be whoever I was at that time. And whoever some people thought you were or whoever I was conditioned to be. Yeah, yes. Just husband was a bank robber. You know that he was like my father. At one point in my life. My dad, you know, every every person that played a role in my childhood, shaped me in some sense, or form because I was watching. And I was a sponge. I was soaking it up. So I wanted to be all these different versions, right? I was like a Lego with a whole bunch of different sets fucking put together on one black UI. And when I started to take the pieces off, I got back to the shell. I liked that. I started to explore Ruhlman and then I found out I may You not horrible you actually really love him.
Jason Hardin 12:02
He felt like he was a loving person. It's crazy. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 12:06
Like I'm so serious about that. Like you love to read, bro. Like you genuinely love to really read you love to you love to write, like you're generous. You'd like to give like these different concepts. Were I was blinded, right? Yeah. Like, I have preconceived ideas. Yeah, yeah, I had a preconceived ideas of how I had to be how I had to behave and even how I had to think that is dangerous.
Jason Hardin 12:31
And you said like this epiphany would you say that wasn't an epiphany was layers and chips that started happening? About how old were you said by after high school. But growing up,
Unknown Speaker 12:41
you know what, uh, I think it was happening, right? Every time. Every time I would face some adversity, or some type of pain. I think a layer of that started to come off every single time, every single time. But originally, you know, the hardest hits I've ever had to take was, you know, where my family was in jeopardy me losing my children and being incarcerated for that last time. That's why I think it took a really a bigger toll. And then me noticing that maybe what people I was moving with aren't really moving in direction. And maybe I could still love them from a distance and be true to me. You know, when I
Jason Hardin 13:18
was part of you cutting people off that was part of bad starting for us with Ruben. And now with the image that have been moving was I should be
Unknown Speaker 13:26
looking at my message right now. I'm talking to people on level four yards in prison, unfortunately, and maybe they are be true to themselves. But for me, if I would have been there today, I will be sad inside. Because I know that I never got to be who I really deserved to be who I am today rom like, I feel like I'm still growing. I'm like a baby. You know, like, I always tell people, this is only the beginning. Like I'm just getting started. Because I really truly believe like, I'm barely now finding out who the hell I am.
Jason Hardin 13:54
I love that. I love that. And I truly believe that too. Oh, my bros
Unknown Speaker 13:56
are dead or in prison man, like people that grew up in my same neighborhood. You know, I got pictures with them and caps I got I went to church with them that just could church buses to pick us up and bring us up to church and out to eat. And I went to the low mountain dances with them, the marshal dances with them. These duels are gone 150 years 100 years. Did you know etc, etc? No, I feel like a lot of us if they could look at it from the way I looked at it when I started to look at life, I think that they will follow me down this path. Wow. Beautiful and inside.
Jason Hardin 14:29
And you know what? I wouldn't doubt that. I wouldn't doubt that. And I think you hit it on the head because you are almost like impossible. For the mind that is still in that in that level on the level in in that world because like, I'm sure that a lot of people look at you and don't see themselves in you even though you were them. You know so and I just think that's so sad that people don't value themselves like that. really should I think that's what it comes from that self image? What do we see when we look in a mirror?
Unknown Speaker 15:04
But I've had people that were never really down for me anyway, like, Man, fuck that dude. But then I have people that are real ones, like in the lifestyle that they live today. They're 100 proof. Yeah, yeah. No doubt bulletproof. Yeah, man, we love you, bro. Keep on doing what you're doing, bro. I can't wait to get out. I want to I want to get behind that. I want to be a part of that. Yeah, yeah. So like, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, forget everybody. As long as I'm happy inside. Yeah, but that doesn't mean I don't love it.
Jason Hardin 15:35
Exactly. Exactly.
Unknown Speaker 15:36
I don't know if that makes sense.
Jason Hardin 15:38
It does. Absolutely. Well. Oh, what did you decide to take action on? When it came to the self discovery? When you found out when you really had made? I guess not to say that you love the way that you love that you're loving person that you really are good. Do you know? And that you didn't want to live that false persona no more? What? What did you decide to take axonal first, because a lot of people living in this society. They don't know that first step. They they they're scared to take it and not even just scared to take it. They don't even know what it is. So what was your first step to get you towards the journey that you're on now? So the
Unknown Speaker 16:15
first step was, first of all started with me and myself. Right? Yeah. And it was just a lot of thinking. But then it was like, the idea came to my mind. Like, you cannot teach something that you're not practicing man. Therefore you cannot transmit something you do not have. And I started with that. I'm like, Okay, well, what are you looking at room? What are your flaws? Okay, you still getting high? You know, I don't know if y'all notice, but I celebrated five years clean. Yeah. Five years just yesterday, shit. And so the the crazy. The craziest thing about it is like I had to start with myself like, man, you know, first of all this this stuff? These are barriers, bro, I had to start with all my barriers and all my blinds, all the stuff that we're disconnecting me from the light. I had to get all that shit out the way. So I could see the lights. I could see the light. Exactly. So it was just it was just that rough.
Jason Hardin 17:05
You know what? I love what you just said, because we did a whole episode about it. But we didn't get as deep as he just spoken by now. And we did an episode called taking care of business by and taking care of your business wasn't anything but illegal episode of taking care of your business and removing those barriers, whether it be probation, whether it be provoked, whether it be watched, whether it be a court date, it's like go to those things because when I was young, I don't know about you, when I was younger, I did not go to not near coordinate, everything turned into every single ticket everything of getting pulled over every single week ticket everything turned into a word because I did not go to court. They may not catch me when they catch me, you know and now I think I've made I was setting myself up for failure. I was setting myself up to not be able to get out of that box because I kept myself in there. Like you said, when you get outside you have to take care of your paperwork.
Unknown Speaker 18:02
So like what you're saying is like right and I'm still dealing with the records right because it's like um Okay, so you need to get clean it's just in the way you're still on probably been on probation for five years you got to find your joint suspension you got two strikes you need a union expunge your record you have no you really have no education yeah no skills you smart as a motherfucker, but there's nothing to prove that man get back in school, learn some skills, put those skills into practical application we'll look at your credit bro your credit ain't looking too shabby for 20 years food if you smoke weed, but
Jason Hardin 18:34
it's not a good credit score.
Unknown Speaker 18:38
I started with that it's nowhere near that now but I'll be honest like that like four or five years ago when I started to really make some significant changes in my life. I was like up against a motherfucking wall fucked up great excuse my language and yeah, you know just the whole nonsense and the dysfunction that I brought upon myself I'm not a victim you know I love that had to look at that
Jason Hardin 18:59
did at any point you want to quit because you just named layers, barriers you had to overcome. So looking at that from day one, first day of like you say first day of Ebola whatever day one when you still have all those cases to work with all that time is still due on the outside but what what made you see past them you know and say like Did did you want to quit? Or did you like from job like, you know, I'm a good dude,
Unknown Speaker 19:27
man. Check this out. Right? So I'm a single father, right? I got full physical legal sole custody of my two children. Well, I'm proud of you but man, praise God. Right. And I'm a good dad. I'm really involved. We do martial arts, the whole shebang. But
Jason Hardin 19:38
I saw the videos references this right
Unknown Speaker 19:41
like I was working full time because you know, I'm an entrepreneur, right? But I'm a I'm a ground up entrepreneur, everything. grassroot startup every everything I financed, I paid out of my pockets, right so whatever I'm now what I'm saying is that I've I've had to work full time. You know, I live alone, my children, I had to take care of household. I've had to be a full time parent, make sure I'm at all the children's meets make sure that their grades are up. I was in school full time, I was a non profit, and I was getting ready to launch a for profit. Did I ever think about quitting? Hell yeah. Because that she is real. Yeah. Wait a minute, I bid off too much. I've been on way too much more than I could chew. Yeah. And I did. And I had to go back to the drawing board reevaluate. Okay, what's the priority? What am I going to do with this? How am I going to delegate my time? And it's it and then anyone that's a business person and you maybe you can identify, you can speak to this. We go through growing pains. Mm hmm. A child's bones hurt when they Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Same thing for an entrepreneur and a boss. Absolutely. Because it hurts sometimes. Man, those are the times when it's like, Man, I'm gonna you I really have contemplated it for a second. I mean, I'm gonna just don't have to do this. Yep. I don't have to do this. Willingly doing this
Jason Hardin 20:59
shit, man.
Unknown Speaker 21:01
And I was like, but I can't stop. But I came. To me that's gonna always haunt me for the rest of my life and say, Man, coulda woulda Shut up. But you did it.
Jason Hardin 21:10
Because what's the alternative?
Unknown Speaker 21:12
My alternative is to get to a position where I could be a leading contributor to my community, that's awesome to help appraise young brothers and women and women in any way any gender role you identify with, for that matter. If you're hungry, and you've been hurting, and you want to change I want to be there man. I want to be a pillar. I want to be a pillar in a community
Jason Hardin 21:30
like that. Tell me about the grand rising is duplicate is Institute they give back to at rescue shore and folk. So tell us about that.
Unknown Speaker 21:38
So the grand rising Institute, grassroot nonprofit, we incorporated a September 2019. We've had a lot of momentum, a lot of ground. We've done events, Christmas toy giveaways, different things like that. But the mission statement is to help children heal from generational trauma and abuse. And, you know, we had held office space in Pasadena for a while, but our board of directors had to get together and look at what our overhead is, you know, we don't we're not working with any grants. Everyone on the team is a volunteer everyone's a student. You know, we got a therapist certified subsidies Caroline's to a teacher on a yoga instructor. But everyone is at volunteer. So every all of our overhead comes out of pocket. Yeah, y'all have a commitment to the CNS baby girl. Yeah, yeah. Because we know what it's gonna do.
Jason Hardin 22:20
They got a pain board. Right? Right. I don't know what that is. They
Unknown Speaker 22:24
don't know where it gets like what if you believe in something that you got to invest
Jason Hardin 22:27
in it? Yeah. So first to invest. Right. So currently,
Unknown Speaker 22:31
what was Grant rising Institute is we serve a service 70 families last Christmas Eve, everyone got a hot meal. Everyone got a box of non perishable goods. Everyone got a $40 gift card to target by the grace of God. Wow. You know, everyone got a postcard from us. And we have Santa there. And it was a COVID drive thru. So we had to get real strategic and real smart man.
Unknown Speaker 22:54
It was a drive. Yeah, we used to do a drive by. It is Stacy's right? So it was cool. We got that toss on the box, and he was serving folks. But today what I'm doing is nonprofit still active. The website is up and under construction, right. But what I'm doing is I'm writing and developing a curriculum for children. Tell us about that. It's it's it's a 12 week healing session. And it's aimed at helping children heal from generational trauma and abuse. So we're going over everything from life skills, as far as communication, self esteem, wow, you have a segment of the session call I am. And that's really just like a lot of positive affirmation and uplifting. Absolutely. We got a section called 100. In our curriculum, we address substance abuse, we address violence, it's just an overall package, it's allowed to not only help a person to really get to a better place, and not that it's overdone, because I don't believe it's we ever stopped healing. Yeah, but that it's a help. It's a help, not only to help you, but to help others come forward. That, you know, you kind of what we're hoping to do is to breed up leaders. Yeah, go back out in the community. And not only, you know, obtain this information, but also put it in
Jason Hardin 24:05
give it Yeah, trying to replicate your success and replicate moving, you know, or
Unknown Speaker 24:09
more winners. Yeah, exactly.
Jason Hardin 24:11
More bosses more
Unknown Speaker 24:12
Ben Stevens, you know, whatever, all
Jason Hardin 24:14
of that. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So what is that curriculum? Like? When is it? When is it I guess gonna be ready? And what does it look like? Is it a class? Is it an online? Is it coming in person? What is it?
Unknown Speaker 24:28
So it's a 12 week healing session? And I've been really blessed. And I'm answering the question to the best of my time. It's been it's a 12 week healing session. So I guess it will be in 12 segments, right? Yeah. 1212 classes, be hour and a half a class. And then it's as far as when it's going to be released. That's that's, I had a I had a mind a time in mind right originally, but this has been some of my most purush work. Yeah, you don't want to rush it. I just credit God to it like I credit God. Because I'm reading this I've read He tried reading and I cry like men do what the hell it is, like But and so I do have I've been blessed. You know, I work for a very, I have a really cool mentor. And I worked with some really cool folks where I've been around a lot of really good book writers and curriculum writers. And so I do plan to run this by Jerry Mo, which is a writer and developer of a lot of children's curriculum, published most mostly through Hazleton, Betty Ford, I want to go with him before I publish anything and get some some feedback on that. But if not, I'll see if I have to Self Publish absolutely no self, I will. But I first want to, you know, exercise every option.
Jason Hardin 25:36
Yeah, yeah, like, and the option to be bigger and to make a huge impact with kids everywhere.
Unknown Speaker 25:42
Even when I sell publishers gone, though. The thing is, they're like up for the date. I have a date in mind. And but it's not, it's not I haven't solidified it. And just just because in the current state of my life, I'm, I'm working on so many projects at one time. And there's momentum happening in every single area of my life that I don't know where I might need to switch and divert more time or focus more area to another space. But I was hoping for the curriculum to be finished by January.
Jason Hardin 26:09
I love that. That's still very cool. Very. So how do you balance the business, and being on the animal, or the Dean's list with a nonprofit? And also with being a dad, that's a full time dad.
Unknown Speaker 26:26
He's got gratitude. So it's gratitude. Wow, that's what happens is that I really, and I had this crazy I had this conversation earlier with one of my guys, he's an entrepreneur, he's very well, and he's like, Ruben man, you know, at one time, we didn't have shit to do. And I'm like, You're right. Fuck, that's pretty, pretty accurate and correct. Because at one point, I mean, literally, I didn't have nothing to do. I could I could burn blunts all day, I
Jason Hardin 26:53
wouldn't be missing nothing. I wouldn't be late to nothing. The highlight
Unknown Speaker 26:57
of my day was a fist fight in the street, you know? And that's sad. Yeah, that's sad. Well, you live like that low level. Yeah, looking for that
Jason Hardin 27:05
to happen. So
Unknown Speaker 27:07
it's great. It's gratitude. It's, it's a, it's a lot of journaling, and writing, and a lot of self care, prayer meditation. I love that and got up at the first of everything in at the end of everything. And then martial arts and boxing has really helped me a lot. And also, I do yoga. My girlfriend is a yoga instructor. And so she gives me free lessons. But I don't I'm not a yogi. I just do I just
Jason Hardin 27:31
do a yoga. I don't even know if I heard that use in that way. Before yoga, I just
Unknown Speaker 27:35
do it because like, it helps me with my range of motion. I get it. Yeah, it helps me to, to free my mind, you know. So that's what's been helping me a lot. I noticed that when I when I let go into like the working out. And I put on some weight recently in the last year. That's when I noticed that I was having more stressors. And I wasn't as efficient as I've been in the
Jason Hardin 27:53
EU. So getting back to the health, but
Unknown Speaker 27:56
it's a compilation bros. Health. It's like health. But it's also like delegating my time, right? And then and not being so rigid, not being so rigid on myself if a deadline is met, like I'm cool with that. I live like that before. And I understand it. I understand that that's that's sometimes can be, it can be detrimental. Absolutely. Because then it starts to instead of fueling your fire and starts to put it out. You know, it comes up, we start to you know, the mind is a tricky place, bro. That's why I love work. That's why I love boxing. Because when I'm in when I'm boxing when I'm training, I'm just focused on boxing. And I don't have to think but like, deadlines can be, like killer, like because I get fired from holding myself to that standard. And not that we shouldn't because I still believe in deadlines. But like, it's okay. It's okay to have grace. Yeah, especially when you handle it many tests. Yeah, many things. And then also my loved ones and my supporters. Because you can't do this alone.
Jason Hardin 28:51
You can't you need a team, but you need writers. Yeah, success is a team sport.
Unknown Speaker 28:55
And you need writers. Yeah, yeah. writers like that, you know, it's not necessarily what I'm going to give you. But it's more so that they just got love for you. And they believe in division. And um, and those those people are coming in different times some of your day ones and then you'll have people call. Yeah, new people.
Jason Hardin 29:12
You don't even know. Hey, man,
Unknown Speaker 29:14
angels. I call him Angel. Mm hmm. Yeah, like my kids right now. They're there with an angel.
Jason Hardin 29:20
That's awesome. Um, you talk about healing a lot, right? How important is vulnerability in healing like being vulnerable? Because if you asked me I think a lot of people run from healing because they run from the emotions attached to it. You know, we had an interview with so and he said the same thing. It's like, people learn from that, that anger that sadness or they run from those emotions, so they never really tackle those issues to heal. So how important is being vulnerable and being expressive and, and putting, like you say, your worst out there and not being ashamed of it anymore. How important is that in the healing process to
Unknown Speaker 29:59
you? All right. So let me start by saying that I always felt like the only person that you really truly need to be honest with is yourself. Absolutely. And once we crossed that threshold where we're no longer lying to ourselves, be vulnerable is a piece of cake.
Jason Hardin 30:13
Yeah, yeah, boy.
Unknown Speaker 30:18
Now I got to prove to nobody.
Jason Hardin 30:20
Oh, yeah. Only Rama
Unknown Speaker 30:23
230 pounds. You know, I'm not a little dude, I do yoga. Yeah, that should tell you to be honorable bro. Beats too, though. Yeah, that does it. And that's the cool shit that does not separate me from being obese. Absolutely not me receiving God and me receiving that energy. And that and manifesting and embracing it. Things materialize things in this shit and bringing it to life. That does not make me a beast. Yeah, yeah, it does not make me a man or whatever. Like, yeah, yeah, sometimes. A lot of us get stuck in this hole. Because we're just confined by our own way of thinking. But in reality in a lot of times, it's not our own thinking
Jason Hardin 31:05
I was gonna say is often else's bullshit. Yeah, somebody is programming. It's programmed into you
Unknown Speaker 31:10
was thought spoon fed. Yeah, yeah. And we've ingested it. And now we believe that that is what is true. And a lot of times, it's just crap, bro. A lot of times, you know. So like, I love that you use the word vulnerable. For sure. Because vulnerable, you know, you got to be vulnerable. Right? You got to take off that that childlike mind. Not the children are like the most fascinating people in the world because of that. Yeah, yeah. When a child my son in law was so fatty. me like that. Yeah. Sounds see me when I was in great shape. Yeah. And I love that about my son. He cracks me up. But man, that's real. No. So a child could be real because they're vulnerable. They're they give and receive. That's how you straight out because at the end of the day, they like.
Jason Hardin 31:50
Exactly me. I mean, yeah, yeah, let
Unknown Speaker 31:53
me you know,
Jason Hardin 31:55
so that authenticity is important in the healing process.
Unknown Speaker 31:59
It's important in in being vulnerable in order for you to heal Yeah, to be true to yourself in order for you to receive even help from the Creator man cuz how God gonna work with you when you can't work with yourself. You can't even talk to God or if that's how you i Sahil God, right. So how can I even go to God? Like, I'm asking God to remove things from me. My character defects, my flaws, but I'm not even laying them out for you. And even admitting what those flaws are. No, I'm like, I'm completely delusional. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Jason Hardin 32:25
I use that word a lot. Because there's a lot of people I know, who don't fix any of their issues only because they don't admit that they have them. Right. It's okay to admit you have a problem? Because that's the first step in fixing it. I mean, that's what they say that it's not cliche. It's
Unknown Speaker 32:42
real. Yeah, yeah, that goes like for business too, though. Like, for real? Like, like, we could look at our our bids, I can look at my business. And I can say, well, well, this didn't happen because this and this and this, or I can say, Well, maybe it's because I didn't look, I didn't organize all my documents. Maybe it's because I didn't hire a CPA to review my quarterly. Coming up with this, you know, whatever makes me feel better.
Jason Hardin 33:06
Yeah. So as accountability, you have
Unknown Speaker 33:08
counted this account as account as far as accountability is What do you
Jason Hardin 33:11
mean a you see all the flaws in yourself and you address those before you put the blame on somebody else? Like, what am I doing more?
Unknown Speaker 33:18
Well, you know, it's not even about blaming others. I think it's just not how can I receive something right? How can I have a paradigm shift? I truly have a paradigm shift and really start and what and really like a different perspective, like a different perception, a different outlook and view on life. If I came first start by looking at me, saying, okay, bro, what do you need to put on the table? What do you need to address so that things can start to look? I love saying this, bro. Like, the world is beautiful. But it's also horrific. Which way do you choose to view it? And what type of energy are you? Like it is kind of aligned with
Jason Hardin 33:57
as debo as the Okay, now we're gonna wrap this up. But first I want you to pretty much what is your advice? What words of wisdom do you have for folks who may have been in your shoes may have been in my shoes may have grown up with the poverty, the abuse, the neglect it there gang infested neighborhoods, and all that stuff and don't know anything else? But those types of people? What advice do you have for them, so that they may be an owner of a business and nonprofit and a dean's list student and all that. So what advice you have today
Unknown Speaker 34:32
is just that the advice would be to not be a slave to your past. Mm hmm. Don't let don't let your mistakes define you. I believe in second and third chances. And I believe in you even if I don't know you, I can't see you right now. I don't care what you do what you've been through. I believe there's somebody out there and waiting for you to deliver some shit that's gonna change the universe. Wow. And it's only going to be you stops you from getting there. Why because you refuse to step out of that that narrow as thinking or because you enslave yourself to your past to that facade to that name to that moniker to that that style maybe you be you bro give free Breaking Chains off and be the change that you want to be
Jason Hardin 35:21
on the show his show is and that is excellent advice because I think a lot of people need to find themselves but become themselves you know because so many folks are running from who they are you know out of shame and anger and a fear and all that and then once all that is wiped away man you are free to be you and you will find more opportunities and being you than being next person I'll tell you that yeah, okay that being said, Man How can people find you how can people check out the the curriculum the grandpa's organization man what can people do to get in touch with you will all that good stuff
Unknown Speaker 35:55
right so look aside for now you know I got slate clean you can see it on my T shirt. I just means like killing everything in a clean state of mind. Like clean I like it like clean everything you touch destroy it but in a clean state of mind with pure intentions. And you can find me at Telesis underscore printing underscore company at IG. You can also email me directly man, I'm an open book Munoz Rubin six to six@gmail.com and then we have a website for the nonprofit and it's it's up and running. It's under construction grand rising institute.org and you can reach us on here there's a contact a segment on there and it is under construction. So you'll see my bio isn't finished. Some of the other team members have bios are complete and we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that but reach out to us man hit me and I'm also reached out to JC man if you got Jason's connect because I'm always ready to talk about anything that's gonna better our people. I love
Jason Hardin 36:51
a bow and yet definitely reach what is that the grant writing is to.org Man leave a donation like you say they do a lot out of just the kindness of their hearts but people don't realize man volunteering cause Yeah, so if you if you're not doing anything else to give back give his brother some money. Donate Seriously man if you're not mentoring have been out there putting in that work, man. Check it out. You can get some money
Unknown Speaker 37:15
I check it out. Because when the curriculum is finished, I'm pressing it up regardless, he taken that money. I'm a president regardless for free row and I'm gonna get him out there. That's awesome. Why don't we go get her man we gonna get him out here because they need to be out there, man.
Jason Hardin 37:30
Well, when you finish the quick and then will you be back on the show? Yes. Please, man. Love to have you back.
Unknown Speaker 37:34
Yeah, absolutely. I want to give you one of those raw
Jason Hardin 37:37
and I'll take it. I'll take it. But anyway, man, that's all episode. Mr. wooburn Munoz, get at him online on social media. Get your shirts and gear from him and get your game from because a brother is full of gay man and very decent, very helpful young man and I appreciate him being on the show with us. Anyway, man, I love you. I love all y'all and I want you to know success is a lifestyle. I love boss peace.